Medical Project Leader of FIA: “A medical language test is starting from July 2014 obligatory to issuance of Approbation in all German states”

Quelle: A comment by Dr. Farhan in a Facebook Group

 Source: A comment by Dr. Farhan in a Facebook Group called “Gleichwertigkeitsprüfung für ausländische Ärzte”, link.

Translation:

Dr. Nabeel Farhan, Freiburg International Academy

Dr. Nabeel Farhan

A medical language test (of C1 level), like the Patient Communication Test (www.freiburg-international-academy.de), is starting from July 2014  obligatory to issuance of the medical license (Approbation) in all German states. This exam is however not yet implemented in all German states. Only in Northrhine-Westfalia, Baden Wütemberg, Thüringne, Hessen, Rheinland-Pfalz is this exam now required for the issuance of Approbation.

 

Who is Dr. Nabeel Farhan?

Nabeel Farhan - Medical Project Manager

Nabeel Farhan – Medical Project Leader

According to the website of Freiburg International Academy (link), Dr. Farhan is the “medical project maanger”. According to the same site, Dr. Farhan has a medical speciatly in Neurosurgery and a Masters Degree in Medical Education. He works in Freiburg University Hospital.

The following is from an interview with Dr. Farhan published in the website of Goethe Institute in Abu Dhabi:

Dr. Nabeel Farhan is originally from Mecca in Saudi Arabia. He studied medicine in Germany and also did his PhD there. Now he is working at the University Hospital of Freiburg and remembers his study time.

Source: Dr. Nabeel Farhan – a doctor from Saudi Arabia studying and working in Germany, link.

To keep updated with information from Freiburg Internatinoal Academy, Dr. Farhan directed me to like their Facebook Page. You can find it here: https://www.facebook.com/pages/FIA-Freiburg-International-Academy

Prüfungstourismus in Deutschland wird abgeschafft

Es war bekannt geworden, dass die Prüfungen für ausländische Ärzte nicht an allen Orten gleich schwer waren. Deshalb reisten Prüflinge quer durch Deutschland, um die leichteren Prüfungen zu absolvieren.
Der 117. Deutsche Ärztetag war im Mai in Düsseldorf und hat beschlossen, dass zukünftig die Prüfungen einheitlich werden und nur noch dort abgelegt werden sollen, wo man beschäftigt ist.
Daraufhin hat die Gesundheitsministerkonferenz diesen Gedanken aufgenommen und auch beschlossen, dass es so kommen wird.


Lese im Beschlussprotokoll des Ärztetages auf der Seite 286 (interne Seite 283) darüber: http://www.bundesaerztekammer.de/page.asp?his=0.2.10741.12095, im TOP (Tagesordnungspunkt!) 7.3 der Gesundheitsministerkonferenz die neuesten Trends .https://www.gmkonline.de/documents/TOP73BerichtP_Oeffentl_Bereich.pdf. Es ist damit zu rechnen, dass das schnell umgesetzt wird. im zweiten Dokument unter II.2 nachlesen, wie die Prüfung zukünftig gestaltet sein wird.

 

Author of this article: Mr. Teddy Kabel.

 

Dear foreign doctor, are you dreaming of a medical specialty in Germany? Are you learning or planning to begin learning the German language? Some good news and bad news… But is the final balance more good or bad?

During the previous weeks, I and many of my doctor friends, were very frightened by the rumors that spread like fire in the German medical specialty-related facebook groups. These rumors, to the best of the understanding of me and some of my friends, talked about language and medicine exams for ALL foreign doctors coming to German. These rumors also profoundly shacked the German Residency dreams of us because they also talked how there will be no more thing as “Temporary Working Permit”. In other words, your parents should be affording the price of your stay in German (For weeks? Months? Years?) until you can pass these tests and be eligible for a working permit. Hence, starting to receive a salary. Is this true? This is very frightening! I tried to relieve my fears by not searching about the topic. Beside, rumors are still rumors. Nothing is 100% certain. When the next year comes, things would become more and more clear. Today, I found the following great German article which talks how one German state is doing to change how it deals with foreign doctors coming to work in it. This great article was posted at the Language Geneartion Center (LGC) facebook group by Frau Dr. Renat Asali. Dr. Asali is the head of the LGC center and a professor at the German department at the University of Jordan. Dr. Asali knows a lot about medical specialty in Germany. Moreover, I think that she has been so far teaching German in Jordan for +20 years. I am mentioning Dr. Asali’s qualifications mainly because I do not know how good the website that published the article (although it has a very excellent design like those of famous American newspapers). I cannot trust that website. However, I think that I can trust Dr. Asali! In addition to the above qualifications, I know Dr. Asali personally. Dr. Asali is now my German language teacher at LGC! With the help of Google Translate, I think that I understood most of the very informative article chosen by my teacher (Here is a link to the article translated by Google Translate). I will try to summarize what I understood. Hopefully, you can correct any mistakes I will make. Together, we can arrive at a better understanding. Let me start with some good news. The article confirms the shortage of physicians in Germany. The shortage of physicians is still in thousands. Certainly, this would not change in months or even years:

 

Here comes the bad news. The article talks how “in the past”, foreign physicians were allowed to work in Germany without having their “Language skills” examined:

So, having passed the B2 level is no longer thought of to be a good “surrogate” marker for the ability of the foreign doctors to deal with German patients. The article mentions example about how (1) foreign physicians are not communicating well with patients, that (2) they are not as good as their German counterparts, and unfortunately enough, and (3) that German patients are now forced to be treated by doctors from countries in which they would voluntarily not be treated by whom. "If I had the chance, I would not allow such a doctor to treat me!" An angry German patient not comfortable with his foreign physician Rheinland-Pfalz/Rhineland-PalatinateTherefore, “One” German state, wants to allow this situation no more. This German state is Rheinland-Pfalz/Rhineland-Palatinate.

 

 

 

Update 25/07/2014: Dear colleagues, I have published 381 posts in this blog since 2007. My blog post’s views show that this post is now the fifth most famous post in my blog… I was therefore encouraged to publish more about medical specialty in Germany. There is now a separate section in my blog titled “Doctors Going to Germany“. Moreover, I now have a Facebook group with the same name (Doctors Going to Germany)… Find the full details about how to explore my Blog’s posts and about hte Facebook group in this post:

Our Facebook Group for Sharing Information for and by “Doctors Going to Germany”

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